My Good Year run flats on my '99 kicked my behind late Friday afternoon. Wanted to change my stock powdered coated early C5 mags out for a set of chrome Thinspoke wheels that I purchased. I own a later model rim clamp tire machine in my home shop not the older style tire machine as I once had years back. Used it plenty of times to change tires and wheels on all my Classic cars, family cars and work Vans without any problem. Found out the hard way that I could not deal with the GoodYear Run Flats that are currently mounted on my '99. Took one front wheel off of the car and started to demount the tire. Busted my rearend and destroyed the factory wheel as it got gouged pretty badly. Called one of the repair shops I deal with being I sell auto parts for a living. The shop said that even with their Rim Clamp tire machine they can not do Corvette Wheels with Run Flats and just send them out. Just curious if anyone else ever had problems working with these tires as far as mounting and demounting is concerned. If I would of known better ahead of time I would of just went down to my nearest Good Year tire dealer to have them do the worked and payed the Piper so to say. I am sure they must charge a good amount of money to make the swap and rebalance. Anyone know what the going rate is out there these days and who I can trust with the right equipment? There must be a special tire machine for doing Run Flats I am guessing. I have always done most of my own work that needed to be done on my cars myself but as I said I ran into something now that I can't handle with the equipment I have on hand.
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1967 Marlboro Maroon 4spd Coupe 1973 Dark Blue 4spd Coupe w/air, original 25,000 miles 1999 Black C-5 Hatchback Coupe 6spd LS1 1934 Ford 3 Window Coupe eng. code "ZZZ" 350-345hp Chevy Powered! 1970 Black on Black Monte Carlo(FOR SALE)Asking $18k
I am about to head out to my nearest Goodyear Tire Store roughly 6-7 miles away. Stopped in their earlier this morning after taking the wife out for breakfast. Got a quote of $147 plus N.J. 7% tax to do the job of swapping my Run Flats to my other set of Mag Wheels. Wish I would of known better being I would of saved a factory original wheel to my car although I don't have any plans of ever putting them back on the car again in the future. The other 3 original wheels I have are perfect with only 36k miles on them. Hope this saves another forum member here from going through what I went through. I am one who doesn't like to fail at anything I do as it is eating at me even through today not making for a good weekend. I did nothing different then I would of done demounting any other tire with my Rim Clamp Tire Machine. That is the problem. Kind of shot myself in the foot on Friday. Doesn't feel too good.
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1967 Marlboro Maroon 4spd Coupe 1973 Dark Blue 4spd Coupe w/air, original 25,000 miles 1999 Black C-5 Hatchback Coupe 6spd LS1 1934 Ford 3 Window Coupe eng. code "ZZZ" 350-345hp Chevy Powered! 1970 Black on Black Monte Carlo(FOR SALE)Asking $18k
Just a update. Just got back from the GoodYear Tire Store and I am fit to be tied. After lugging my 8 tires and wheels into the Back area of the shop and going to the front office in front of the store I found that the $147 plus tax that I was quoted in the morning to change over my GoodYear Run Flats to my other Mag Wheels just jumped up another $100 more. Believe it or not I am being charged another $24.98 per wheel to exhange the TPS Sensors from one wheel to the other. No different then changing out a Chrome Tire Valve. One only has to take 1 nut off and take the TPS Valve out of the rim hole and transfer it to the other wheel. Highway Robbery if you ask me. Its seems that today everyone wants to make a homerun on you. I may be oldschool being I have been around awhile and will be turning 60 years old in a few months but I have never seen anything like this. $256 to swap out 4 tires from one set of rims to another set. What a rip off the Good Year Tire Store is in my New Jersey neighborhood if you were to ask me. Never will I ever go to Good Year again for anything and surely I will never recommend them to anyone.
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1967 Marlboro Maroon 4spd Coupe 1973 Dark Blue 4spd Coupe w/air, original 25,000 miles 1999 Black C-5 Hatchback Coupe 6spd LS1 1934 Ford 3 Window Coupe eng. code "ZZZ" 350-345hp Chevy Powered! 1970 Black on Black Monte Carlo(FOR SALE)Asking $18k
I changed tire once on my C5 .I went from the original GY's to Michelin (both run flats ) the cost of mounting was $25 per tire .I kept my origial wheel .
The $247 or so you were charged is about the going rate. I have CCWs on my vette and am thinking of getting either Crays or 2009 Z06 style rims. I checked around for a price to have the wheels swapped and got quotes from $225 to $275.
You do need the new type tire changing machines for the C5 C6 wheels.
Lou, I actually own one of the newer Rim Clamp Tire Machines as mentioned in my first post. Problem is it didn't handle the Goodyear Run Flat Tire. Don't know if I mentioned this but I spoke to one of my Auto Repair Mechanics that I sell to in my auto parts business. He told me that even with their Rim Clamp Tire machine at their shop they can not do Run Flat Tires and just send them out to be done. He mentioned that their is a newer Rim Clamp Tire Machine out that has a 2nd arm that comes down to keeps pressure on the left side of the tire as the Run Flat Tires have very tuff sidewalls to try to hold down. My guess is the mechanic I know can't deal with them even with a 2nd mechanic trying to press down on the oposite side of the tire. I worked on mine all by myself and although I was able to get the tire off of the first rim I did enough damage to the original wheel that I gave up on doing any others. Even tried to mount it on one of my new mags but had to back up or destroy that wheel. I actually did a little damage to it. Doesn't look bad enough so I will keep it on the car but all weekend this has been eating at me. If it bothers me down the road I will just purchase another wheel to replace it.
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1967 Marlboro Maroon 4spd Coupe 1973 Dark Blue 4spd Coupe w/air, original 25,000 miles 1999 Black C-5 Hatchback Coupe 6spd LS1 1934 Ford 3 Window Coupe eng. code "ZZZ" 350-345hp Chevy Powered! 1970 Black on Black Monte Carlo(FOR SALE)Asking $18k
Picked up my tires and wheels late Sunday afternoon. Wheels were not cleaned when I picked them up as there was Rubber Lube all around the edge of the rims and on other parts of the wheel that almost looked like a milky colored wax. Anyway one of the Goodyear techs mentioned that it would all clean right off. Paid the man with my credit card and brought them home figuring I would put them on Monday sometime in the late morning early afternoon. Well I mounted them and proceeded to do some cleaning. Right now once again I am not a happy camper. 3 of the 4 new wheels have scratched up chrome around the bead area of the wheel. Some light scratches and some heavy scratches. One area is so ruff that you can cut your finger on it if you kept rubbing it. I believe this is why Rubber Lube was left on the wheel to hide these scratches. For this I was just charged $256 from a professional to transfer my Goodyear Run Flat tires from one set of wheels to my new Chrome Thin Spoke Wheels that are now scratched. A real professional job. On top of everything they also scratched and chipped the powder coating off of 3 of my original factory mags while demounting the tires off of them. Put in a call at about 7:30 last night for the Good Year store manager who wasn't there at the time. I let the person I spoke to know of my problem and he said we should be able to work something out. I asked if they had insurance to cover this? Would like to know what the forum members think about it on this forum as to how I should handle this being I should be getting a phone call sometime today from the Store Manager.
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1967 Marlboro Maroon 4spd Coupe 1973 Dark Blue 4spd Coupe w/air, original 25,000 miles 1999 Black C-5 Hatchback Coupe 6spd LS1 1934 Ford 3 Window Coupe eng. code "ZZZ" 350-345hp Chevy Powered! 1970 Black on Black Monte Carlo(FOR SALE)Asking $18k
Picked up my tires and wheels late Sunday afternoon. Wheels were not cleaned when I picked them up as there was Rubber Lube all around the edge of the rims and on other parts of the wheel that almost looked like a milky colored wax. Anyway one of the Goodyear techs mentioned that it would all clean right off. Paid the man with my credit card and brought them home figuring I would put them on Monday sometime in the late morning early afternoon. Well I mounted them and proceeded to do some cleaning. Right now once again I am not a happy camper. 3 of the 4 new wheels have scratched up chrome around the bead area of the wheel. Some light scratches and some heavy scratches. One area is so ruff that you can cut your finger on it if you kept rubbing it. I believe this is why Rubber Lube was left on the wheel to hide these scratches. For this I was just charged $256 from a professional to transfer my Goodyear Run Flat tires from one set of wheels to my new Chrome Thin Spoke Wheels that are now scratched. A real professional job. On top of everything they also scratched and chipped the powder coating off of 3 of my original factory mags while demounting the tires off of them. Put in a call at about 7:30 last night for the Good Year store manager who wasn't there at the time. I let the person I spoke to know of my problem and he said we should be able to work something out. I asked if they had insurance to cover this? Would like to know what the forum members think about it on this forum as to how I should handle this being I should be getting a phone call sometime today from the Store Manager.
I'd let the manager set the tone .
The local "Tire Warehouse " is my main supplier for the bulk of my tires .They know me well enough that I watch and all the guys in the shop know I have a concealed weapons permit and a short fuse.
Fred I checked in at my local tire & Auto Store today and they quoted me $100 Swapped/mounted & Balanced and switch the sensors. A far cry from $250. Hope the Manager takes care of your Problem
Just an update to my problem here with the Goodyear Tire Store. I never got a return phone call from the Goodyear Store Manager as expected today. I guess he never got the message or did not care to call me back to face the problem I have with them. I will definitely make it a point to call the Goodyear Tire store once again tomorrow Wednesday to once again voice my complaint. If no action is taken I will call corporate and let them have it. At the least I will dispute the $256 in charges for shoddy work performed.
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1967 Marlboro Maroon 4spd Coupe 1973 Dark Blue 4spd Coupe w/air, original 25,000 miles 1999 Black C-5 Hatchback Coupe 6spd LS1 1934 Ford 3 Window Coupe eng. code "ZZZ" 350-345hp Chevy Powered! 1970 Black on Black Monte Carlo(FOR SALE)Asking $18k
I would have done the same thing. Try to work something out with the local manager and if you don't get satisfaction, then call corporate. You know, this is a shame that happens more often than not. You pay your hard earned money for a service and expect that it be done correctly. They do a crappy job and then they try to hide it. Who do they think they are fooling?
Here's the latest update to the problem I have with Goodyear. First of all I gave a call to the Service Manager at my local Goodyear Tire Store where the work was performed early Wednesday. I was suppose to get a call back from him on Tuesday after leaving a message on Monday about the problem but he never called me back. Anyway the manager wanted to see my car with the wheels on them. Since getting the wheels and tires back on Sunday my car had been sitting up on my 2 post lift in my Pole Barn behind my home. I put the wheels back on the car Monday. Well I set the car down and backed it away from the lift and noticed the Right Rear Tire looked like it was low of air. Sure enough it was completely out of air. My guess is that either the TPS sensor is now bad or the rubber seal may be defective. I filled the tire up with air and drove it down to the Goodyear Dealer. He came out and I pointed out the scratches in the rim and also showed him 2 of the original factory rims that were also scratched as they demounted my Run Flats from them to make the switch. He did a lot of rubbing with his fingers on all of my rims. Anyway he wanted to know what I expected him to do. I just told him to comp the $256 bill and I would walk and look the other away. The scratches are there and they may of messed up one of my TPS sensors. From a few feet away my 59 year old eyes can see some of the scratches and they don't look that bad but I know that they are there. The manager agreed to comp the bill. I think I let Goodyear get away cheap but I wanted to put and end to my problem. On the way home it showed on the dash that I was down to 17 pounds of air in the RR Tire and when I got home it was 16 pounds so the air is escaping the tire pretty fast. Apparently the TPS Sensor is working but leaking.
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1967 Marlboro Maroon 4spd Coupe 1973 Dark Blue 4spd Coupe w/air, original 25,000 miles 1999 Black C-5 Hatchback Coupe 6spd LS1 1934 Ford 3 Window Coupe eng. code "ZZZ" 350-345hp Chevy Powered! 1970 Black on Black Monte Carlo(FOR SALE)Asking $18k
I guess I was lucky it was only the TPS O-Ring as I sprayed around the Valve Stem hole in the wheel with some mixed up Joy Dish Detergent and water and saw where the leak was right away. I broke the bead close to the TPS Sensor with my Tire Machine enough to reach in and take the TPS Sensor out of the wheel after loosening the nut on the valve stem. Funny there wasn't an O-Ring on the Valve Stem telling me that maybe it fell off at the Goodyear Dealer and maybe the Tech doing the job didn't notice and put the TPS in without it. You would of thought that maybe Goodyear would of checked for leaks. Anyway a new O-Ring did the trick. Glad I have my own Tire Machine or I would of had to go running around to find someone else to break the tire down to replace the O-Ring for me. Took me all but 10 minutes to do.
-- Edited by ffas23 on Friday 15th of October 2010 06:21:38 PM
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1967 Marlboro Maroon 4spd Coupe 1973 Dark Blue 4spd Coupe w/air, original 25,000 miles 1999 Black C-5 Hatchback Coupe 6spd LS1 1934 Ford 3 Window Coupe eng. code "ZZZ" 350-345hp Chevy Powered! 1970 Black on Black Monte Carlo(FOR SALE)Asking $18k
