This might be shock.....but they're all crooks.......the Fed is privately held.
Theres no US government in it.
Its the ten richest familes in the world.
The government is a cash whore and they bend over for anyone with a buck.
ANYONE.......China included.

If it envloves money its corrupt.

zathrus wrote:

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Quantitative easing, You Tube & the Fed

I thought this was funny and pretty clear too.  It’s a quick, animated explanation of so-called quantitative easing delivered with a quirky computerized Eastern European syntax.  Goldman Sachs and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke are skewered herein so be warned if you hail from the mighty GS or the Fed :

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That's totally insane. I'm going to retire in 3 months and spend all my money and then let Obama take care of me so the government can't have any of my money.

 

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When it comes to the government what isn't totally insane????????????????
You can't count on SS the government has been robbing it blind since the 30's.
Old people are not welcome in this country, were just in the way.

"No country for old men" is a good example.

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 And that is why I am doing early retirement at age 62. I want to get whatever I can before it's gone. I don't need it but I sure as heck don't want the Feds to keep it. It's my money, not the Feds.

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Actually, Ken you do need it.
If it and when it ends, think of all the people who paid into to it who will destitute.
Those will be the biggest riots this country will ever see.
Hungry homeless people have nothing to lose, they will be uncontrolable.

Society is a form of control.
In a society that takes from the less fortunate and gives to other social groups of means, theres no longer a form of control.
The reward, punishment system of control in this counrty will implode.

The people's faith in thier government be gone for generations.
Were close to that point now.
A lot of people think that SS is on the hit list and it is. You and I included.

The government loves to spend big on itself, but give nothing to we the people.
SS is 20% of all government spending, the military gets 40% wars are very popular with the government, but not popular with the people.

Education is something like 3%, whats wrong with that picture?
40% to fund the military to fight unwinable wars that benefit everyone but the US.

But no military cuts of any size, little cuts here and there just for show.
Everyone knows the best jobs in the country are government jobs they rarely cut back, instead they just cut social programs and raise taxes.

Its SOP with the state. Full speed ahead and dayum the torpedoes.
Theres no end insight to the rasing of taxes and social cuts, so making the retirement age 65 to 70 is going take its toll on the country as a whole nobody can find work now let alone when you can hardly walk.

At 65 to75 its over for most folks, thats what the state is counting on work them till they drop, its social slavery.
We all need social security.......

 

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ffas23 wrote:

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redwing76 wrote:

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kensmith wrote:

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redwing76 wrote:

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When it comes to the government what isn't totally insane????????????????
You can't count on SS the government has been robbing it blind since the 30's.
Old people are not welcome in this country, were just in the way.

"No country for old men" is a good example.

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 And that is why I am doing early retirement at age 62. I want to get whatever I can before it's gone. I don't need it but I sure as heck don't want the Feds to keep it. It's my money, not the Feds.

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Actually, Ken you do need it.
If it and when it ends, think of all the people who paid into to it who will destitute.
Those will be the biggest riots this country will ever see.
Hungry homeless people have nothing to lose, they will be uncontrolable.

Society is a form of control.
In a society that takes from the less fortunate and gives to other social groups of means, theres no longer a form of control.
The reward, punishment system of control in this counrty will implode.

The people's faith in thier government be gone for generations.
Were close to that point now.
A lot of people think that SS is on the hit list and it is. You and I included.

The government loves to spend big on itself, but give nothing to we the people.
SS is 20% of all government spending, the military gets 40% wars are very popular with the government, but not popular with the people.

Education is something like 3%, whats wrong with that picture?
40% to fund the military to fight unwinable wars that benefit everyone but the US.

But no military cuts of any size, little cuts here and there just for show.
Everyone knows the best jobs in the country are government jobs they rarely cut back, instead they just cut social programs and raise taxes.

Its SOP with the state. Full speed ahead and dayum the torpedoes.
Theres no end insight to the rasing of taxes and social cuts, so making the retirement age 65 to 70 is going take its toll on the country as a whole nobody can find work now let alone when you can hardly walk.

At 65 to75 its over for most folks, thats what the state is counting on work them till they drop, its social slavery.
We all need social security.......

 

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I am a little confused about the 3% listed for education above in red. I guess you mean the Federal Goverment donates 3% to education. Well let me tell you something. Looking at my New Jersey tax bill recently as I had to pay into the 3rd quarter for November 1st  I see that out of my $9300.00 a year that I am paying at present in Property Taxes $5500.00 goes to pay for education in my town. No wonder the Fed only contributes 3% as Education in my state is totally paid for off of the backs of Property Tax Payers. Its really a sin especially for my family as we never burdened our town to pay for our one daughers education. We sent her to parochial school and paid every bit of her education out of our own pockets and yet still contributed to our public schools through our property taxes. The way I see it to be fair to everyone I feel families should all pay for their own children. If that was the case my property taxes could be cut in half if not more.

Some people would argue with what I said above. I have had an argument on a town forum of what I mentioned above at one time. My thought is this for example. If I want to go out and buy a new ZR1 Corvette are the people of my town going to help me pay for it? I don't think so. If that is the case why do I have to pay to send their child to school? In my family we decided that having 1 child was enough. I remember back then just going into business I didn't know if I would do ok in my new venture. Its expensive to have kids so we decided on only one. Now take someone else out there pumping out kids left and right that can not afford them especially the Illegals. Is it still right for others to pick up the tab? I hope most here see where I am coming from. Whats right is right I feel. You want 10 kids you should be responsible enough to pay for their needs. If not don't have so many. Have only what you can afford.

 I totally agree with the above red statement. We seem to want to support all comers regardless of our own problems with the working class. Especially here in Cali which is known as the welfare state. I never voted or offered to take care of all the slackers!

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The State mandates that everyone has to educated, but the State doesn't pay for it.
We the people pay for it, that is we the people who want to keep our homes pay for it.

In this state California property taxes use to support the public school system.
But state wanted to rob the property tax school fund, so it set up the Lottery to fund the schools, and the state takes most if not all of the property taxes.

Schools in Southern California are in a shambles, toilets that don't work, drinking fountains that don't work, buidlings that don't meet earthquake codes, rats in the hallways.

Big government is behind your high property taxes, it might say that this amount of money goes for the schools, but its probably a lie. I know it is in this state.

New Jersey schools are in horrible shape, some of them are even dangerous, with few positive results.
In my county Kern County Ca my taxes are $848.69 General Local Goverment gets $717.81 of that. Kern County Schools get $130.88 of that.
In California property taxes don't support the schools, the Lottery does.

A teacher here 1st makes $36,000. The teachers here have to pay out of thier own pockets for school supplies, sports are being done away with as is music classes, field trips etc.

I agree with you 100% if your not using the schools why then do you have to pay for them.
Why do retired people still have to pay property taxes at all, or any tax?

In New Jersey there will never be enough money, its a poorly run state, but what state isn't.
New Jersey needs a property tax ceiling, without it the state will continue to raise your taxes forever.
In El Paso Tx they raise the property taxes twice a year, in a large due to the influx of illegals running out Juarez Mexico, thats never going to change.
Juarez Mexico is the most dangerous city in the world.......400,000 have left for the US in the last 5 years.
Whos paying for that property owners.

The only thing that you could besdies a grass roots movement to put a ceiling on taxes is to leave New Jersey. Its never going to get better.
El Paso Tx is never going to get better, all of Juarez is running away from the drug cartels.
Illegals have an extreme impact on the US economy, but we have still sanctuary state California and New Jersey are just two of them.

Taxes and Illegal immigration will be the death of the Republic.

This is a real good thread ,great comments .

As long as we're on a political mood I just saw where 74 % of doctors plan to semi-retire or completely retire as soon as Obama care shifts into gear.